Friend, you may suffer from anxiety and depression, and you may not. This is a must-listen episode no matter what because I guarantee there is someone in your life who is struggling with these two emotions and diagnoses.

Joon and I talk through

  • If anxiety and depression are a lack of trust in God
  • What’s going on when you’re frustrated that you can’t snap out of your anxiety and depression
  • And two powerful ways the Church can love those who are depressed and anxious.

Key Quotes

  • “Depression had a way of speaking about my value.” – Author, hospital chaplain, and pastor Joon Park
  • “Depression is about the past or things that are happening. Anxiety is about the future and what will happen.” – Author, hospital chaplain, and pastor Joon Park
  • “It’s not ‘If you really had faith, then you wouldn’t be depressed,’ but rather, ‘In my depression or in my anxiety, God, who was the very last rock I can cling to, brought me through that anxiety and depression.’” – Author, hospital chaplain, and pastor Joon Park
  • “As people showed up, God showed up.” – Author, hospital chaplain, and pastor Joon Park
  • “I collapsed in God’s arms.” – Author, hospital chaplain, and pastor Joon Park
  • “When we’re in it, it’s God With.” – Author, hospital chaplain, and pastor Joon Park
  • “There’s a push and pull between really needing community but also feeling like when they see me in pain, I kind of have to take care of them too.” – Author, hospital chaplain, and pastor Joon Park
  • “I learned to give a pass or a grace to those who are not with, or in, presence perfectly.” – Author, hospital chaplain, and pastor Joon Park
  • “People offer cliches to insulate themselves from inevitable loss.” – Author, hospital chaplain, and pastor Joon Park
  • “Just because I’m depressed doesn’t make me a bad Christian.” – Author, hospital chaplain, and pastor Joon Park
  • “Depression, anxiety, those things don’t determine who I am as a person.” – Author, hospital chaplain, and pastor Joon Park
  • “I am not what my anxiety and depression tell me I am.” – Author, hospital chaplain, and pastor Joon Park
  • “As we point to hope, not to rush to pull that eschatological curtain so fast, but rather being where the person is.” – Author, hospital chaplain, and pastor Joon Park
  • “Some people do need the theology, but most people do need the presence.” – Author, hospital chaplain, and pastor Joon Park

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About Joon Park

Hospital chaplain, published author, viral blogger, and teaching pastor Joon Park joins the show. For seven years, he has been an interfaith chaplain at a 1000+ bed hospital that is designated a Level 1 Trauma Center. 

His role includes grief counseling, attending every death, every trauma and Code Blue, and supporting end-of-life care. He also served for three years as a chaplain at one of the largest nonprofit charities for the homeless on the east coast. 

J.S. has a Master’s of Divinity and a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology. He also has a 6th-degree black belt in Tae Kwon Do. He is the author of The Voices We Carry: Finding Your One True Voice in a World of Clamor and Noise. 

J.S. currently lives in Tampa, Florida, with his wife, a nurse practitioner, their one-year-old daughter, and dog. 

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